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Title: They Literally Danced All Night And Went Home In The Morning

Author(s): Richard Spencer (Author); Shawn Kelley (Oral Historian); William Penner (Editor)

Richard Spencer talks about how the community of Eastview functioned during his grandfather’s time and the importance of local churches and schools.

Shawn: What do you know about the community of Eastview or Cienegita or Cienega back in your grandfather’s time? What kind of community was it? Was it mostly a farming and ranching community with the mills there? Richard: Yeah, and again, if you...

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Title: They Couldn’t Make Enough Money With The Cows That They Had

Author(s): Al Padilla and Joe Padilla (Author); Shawn Kelley (Oral Historian); William Penner (Editor)

Al and Joe Padilla describe being on their family’s homestead and the diverse ways people made a living.

Joe: See, my dad did all kinds of work. My dad worked for the railroad. He worked for that Sais Crusher, and also on construction of US 60 there. And the reason for that is because they couldn’t make enough money with the cows that they had. For so...

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Title: You Fed Them And You Fed Them Well

Author(s): Martina Brazil Franklin (Author); Shawn Kelley (Oral Historian); William Penner (Editor)

Martina Brazil Franklin remembers her father, a prominent local sheepman, and growing up in the village of Scholle, New Mexico.

My father Joe Brazil came to this country from the Azore Islands when he was 16. His father had preceded him and gone to California. My father came with a sister, Maria, and two brothers and they went on to California and lived there for a long time....

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Title: The Railroad Made It, And The Railroad Destroyed It

Author(s): Bill Pohl (Author); Shawn Kelley (Oral Historian); William Penner (Editor)

The railroad is what made this country. It revolutionized the world, especially the United States, and every part of it, everywhere it went. Well, the people that were here before the railroad came, undoubtedly it made the world smaller for them, bu...

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Title: A Hundred And Fifty Dollars For A Section!

Author(s): Sylvestre Sisneros (Author); Shawn Kelley (Oral Historian); William Penner (Editor)

Sylvestre Sisneros talks about the way his family homesteaded south of Abo ruins during the Depression.

Okay, there was about five sections south of Abo near Chupadero Mesa that they couldn’t dispose of it under the original Homestead Act (which only allowed 160 acres), because the land didn’t have any water. It was good grazing, but it was far ou...

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Title: They Used To Steal The Comanchita And Take Her To One Of The Reyes’ Houses

Author(s): Polly Sisneros (Author); Shawn Kelley (Oral Historian); William Penner (Editor)

Polly Sisneros recalls the dances and religious celebrations and ceremonies that occurred in Scholle and the surrounding areas.

They used to have parties! That was a party town. Oh my God! My dad worked in this pool hall. That’s how come we came to Scholle, because Mr. Brazil wanted my dad to manage the pool hall. They used to have the dances there on a big ol’ patio be...

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Title: He Had Ten Wagons When He Came To New Mexico

Author(s): Richard Spencer (Author); Shawn Kelley (Oral Historian); William Penner (Editor)

Richard discusses how his grandfather, B. B. Spencer, came to New Mexico and started the first sawmill in the Manzano area.

As far as I know, he was the first Anglo that got here and he started the first mill in the area. The Kaysers, I think, were close behind him or right about that same time. He brought a boiler for the mill through Oklahoma to White Oaks. Supposedly i...

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